29 of 798 Wikipedia 1900-1990s neologisms
Hello Chris,
Did you notice some post-1900 neologisms? (Not todays meaning, I suppose)
bfs /huggingface/hub/datasets--croqaz--vintage-words -size +11M -exec rg -wf <(rg ..... 1900-1990s_neologisms.huniq.tolower.798.txt) {} \;|sort -rnk2|tee 798.5charsAndMore.log|cat -n
1 "happening": 2636,
2 "faggot": 1152,
3 "disco": 591,
4 "l'auteur": 179,
5 "outing": 147,
6 "clade": 112,
7 "auteur": 109,
8 "henge": 76,
9 "trolling": 43,
10 "based": 41,
11 "queer": 29,
12 "strine": 26,
13 "intermedia": 14,
14 "radar": 12,
15 "bouffon": 9,
16 "mooning": 6,
17 "lurker": 6,
18 "phene": 4,
19 "gabber": 3,
20 "pinko": 2,
21 "panspermia": 2,
22 "mobbing": 2,
23 "vegan": 1,
24 "skort": 1,
25 "nimby": 1,
26 "kiasu": 1,
27 "disco'er": 1,
28 "d'auteur": 1,
29 "darknet": 1,
Howto:
for f in {00..90..10};do w3m -dump https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:19"$f"s_neologisms|rg •|rg -A999 25th|rg -nB999 introductions;echo;done|rg -v 'neologisms|25th|introductions'|cut -d\( -f1|awk -F• '{print $2}'|tee 1900-1990s_neologisms.txt
cut -b2- 1900-1990s_neologisms.txt|rg ..|huniq|awk '{print tolower($0)}'|tee 1900-1990s_neologisms.huniq.tolower.798.txt
for f in {00..90..10};do w3m -dump https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:18"$f"s_neologisms|rg •|rg -A999 24th|rg -nB999 introductions;echo;done|rg -v 'neologisms|24th|introductions'|cut -d\( -f1|awk -F• '{print $2}'|tee 1800-1890s_neologisms.txt
cut -b2- 1800-1890s_neologisms.txt|rg ..|huniq|awk '{print tolower($0)}'|tee 1800-1890s_neologisms.huniq.312.txt
Btw, your example:
bfs huggingface/hub/datasets--croqaz--vintage-words -size +11M -exec rg 'internet|chemotherapy' {} \;|sort -rnk2
"internet": 4147,
"internet": 2684,
"internet": 934,
"internet": 529,
"internetional": 39,
"internetional": 31,
"internets": 18,
"internets": 16,
"internetionel": 10,
"internet's": 9,
"internetion": 9,
"internetional": 8,
"internetted": 7,
"internetlonal": 7,
"internetionel": 7,
"internetted": 5,
"internet's": 5,
"internetlonal": 5,
"internetion": 5,
"internet's": 4,
"tinternetreet": 3,
"internetionel": 3,
"interneting": 3,
"internetion": 2,
"ktdinternet": 1,
"internetted": 1,
Would like to look closer into the source. Maybe like with "computer" of pre-1900, the word was used with other meanig.
Hi foss,
Oh wow, that's embarrassing for me, since I'm claiming they're all vintage and the examples you're showing are not that...
Did a quick search and I can see "internet" in Gutenberg, words-short and words-long. They are clearly poisoned and it's not great.
Look, even if it's not great, first of all thank you for letting me know and I'll see what I can do, those modern words CANNOT be in the vintage words. Luckily I have some banned words in my FT datasets, eg: https://huggingface.co/datasets/croqaz/vintage-ft-v1/blob/main/banned.txt ;
There are some things that I can't easily do to the original datasets, since there are many GB of texts in there, and also some words did have meaning in the old times like queer, perhaps others. I will try to extract snippets of context around those words to see how they're used and update the JSON files and readme too, but it will take a while :)
Cheers
Yes there are leaks from gutenberg, short-docs, long-docs and english-historical-1800-1875 dataset (from Archive.org):
| Word | Count (ALL) | Verdict | Evidence / note |
|---|---|---|---|
| internet | 7,175 | LEAK (modern) | Internet Archive watermark + PG "Internet Archive/American Libraries" URLs. Only tiny # of vintage uses (internet = interval, e.g. short-docs "an Internet which they wished to roll"). |
| 81,278 | mostly LEAK + OCR noise | PG "email ccx074@pglaf.org" lines = real modern leak; many other hits are OCR substrings (Albemaile, Tremaile, email=dental enamel, "email pox"=smallpox OCR). | |
| 549,724 | LEAK (watermark) + vintage | Real leak = "Google Books/Google Print". Many vintage hits are the old word google/goggle = bulging eyes / to look askance, and "google-google"/"google-guogle-goo" = babble/mimicry onomatopoeia. | |
| online / on-line | 24,309 | LEAK + vintage/OCR | Leak = "Online Distributed Proofreading Team", "www.pgdp.net". Vintage/OCR = "on line/in line", "onliness"=singleness, "online Green" (bowling green). |
| website | 958 | LEAK | PG transcriber notes ("on the website", "Distributed Proofreaders website", Early Canadiana Online site). Many hits are OCR of surnames (Websier/Websiter/Websitern). |
| computer | 4,243 | vintage, NOT a leak | Pre-1900 "computer" = a person who computes / a bookkeeper-draftsman; "Cox's Pipe Computer" (1892, a mechanical slide-rule computing device). CC: few "computer users by 2001" PG-eBook metadata hits. |
| television | 7,491 | LEAK + OCR noise | Real hits from PG performance-rights boilerplate ("stage, cinema, or television…"). Many OCR false hits are surnames (Television(s), "At:Online"). |
| radio | 44,752 | vintage/OCR, NOT a modern leak | Legit ~1899–1900 = morse-code wireless telegraphy / "radio waves" (radiation). 18th-c. ECCO hits are Latin radios = rays. No modern broadcast-radio context found. |
| robot | 6,891 | vintage, NOT a modern leak | Hits are Korobotchka (Gogol name), robot = medieval corvée/villeinage labour, robotics in a Roget-style thesaurus, Latin names. No Čapek-robot context. |
| radar | 9,232 | vintage/OCR, NOT a modern leak | Hits are OCR of Gradara (castle name), biradar, gradarius, glad-r (dictionary entries) — none is the 1940s detection acronym. |
| smog | 12,728 | vintage/OCR, NOT a modern leak | Hits are OCR of cosmogony/cosmography/cosmographical (the "smog" substring), not the 1900s London "smoke+fog" coinage. |
| byte | 8,919 | vintage/OCR, NOT a modern leak | Hits are OCR of Presbyterian/Presbytery (internal "by..." substrings). |
| blog | 2,181 | vintage, NOT a modern leak | Hits are the English surnames Blogg/Blogge/Blogs and Weblogger place names. No web-log sense. |
| tweet | 30,727 | vintage, NOT a modern leak | Pre-1900 tweet = a small bird's note ("Tweet, tweet!", "a single tweet" of a warbler). No Twitter sense. |
| selfie / laptop | 159 / 378 | ~0 (absent in sample) | No modern use found in the searched sources. |
| digital | 42,841 | vintage + few LEAK | Vintage = digitalis/digital (foxglove/medicine), interdigital (anatomy). Few leak hits via "Digital & Multimedia Center" / "Digital Library" PG metadata. |
| cyber | 172 | vintage, NOT a modern leak | Hits are Mecyberna/Mecybernaeans (Greek towns), Cyber (surname/Cibber), Cybernicus (Cyzicus rampart). No cyberspace sense. |
| hypertext | 100 | LEAK | PG "…resulting from word processing or hypertext software" license boilerplate. |
| multimedia | 50 | LEAK | PG "Digital & Multimedia Center, Michigan State University Libraries". |
| blog, online, webpage, www, pdf | — | LEAK | All traced to embedded PG/internet metadata strings. |
Your examples are mostly not leaks:
| Word (dict count) | #matched | Verdict | Remark |
|---|---|---|---|
| happening 2636 | 2125 | vintage | normal old "happening" (a passage happening, Yesterday happening to be…) |
| faggot 1152 | 886 | vintage | old sense only: "Fire and Faggot" (heretic burning), "vnty the faggot" (bundle of sticks) |
| disco 591 | 247 | vintage/OCR | Latin disco="I learn"; Disco. of Anab. = abbreviation of "Discourse of the Anabaptists" |
| l'auteur 179 | (in auteur) | vintage | French "l'Auteur" = the author (French-language texts) |
| outing 147 | 136 | vintage | old sense = ousting/ejecting: "outing and banishing", "outing others … from their places" |
| clade 112 | 104 | vintage/OCR | Latin clade = destruction/disaster; also "were clade in sackcloth" (=clad) |
| auteur 109 | 127 | vintage | French "de l'auteur" = of the author (film-director sense absent) |
| henge 76 | 60 | vintage | "Stone-henge" (the Wiltshire monument) |
| trolling 43 | 16 | vintage | old sense = rolling/changing: "trolling and discanning of the Psalmes", "turning & trolling of them" (no internet sense) |
| based 41 | 32 | vintage/OCR | "be a based kindly", "based soe Low?" (OCR/bassed) — not the internet insult |
| queer 29 | 26 | vintage/OCR | "Queer of Heaven", "Heavens Queer" (=quire/choir or strange) — pre-1900 "strange/odd" or OCR |
| strine 26 | 25 | vintage/OCR | old spelling of "strive": "we are to strine against the world" |
| intermedia 14 | 14 | vintage | Latin scholarly: "species intermedia in Logick", "intermedia loca" (=intermediate) |
| radar 12 | 3 | vintage/OCR | Irish/Gaelic text "do labh radar re Maóise" — OCR — no 1940s radar |
| bouffon 9 | 8 | vintage | French "Bouffon" = clown/jester, "Bouffonnerie" (French text) |
| mooning 6 | 6 | vintage/OCR | OCR of mooving/moving: "the mooving of vs to sorrow" rendered mooning — no butt-flashing |
| lurker 6 | 4 | vintage | old word = one who lurks secretly: "this lawlesse Lurker", "as an cruell lurker" |
| phene 4 | 2 | vintage/OCR | Greek name "From Phene, Ripe, and Orchomenus"; garbled incantation — not biology |
| gabber 3 | 2 | vintage/OCR | old "gab"=chatter: "the young Fry Gabber at Samm's Coffee-house"; French gabber=mock |
| pinko 2 | 2 | vintage/OCR | an animal "call'd the Pakeera, and Pinko" — not the Red-sympathiser slur |
| panspermia 2 | 2 | vintage | legit OLD philosophical use: Ancients called water "Panspermia" (seed theory) — pre-1900 concept |
| mobbing 2 | 2 | vintage | old sense = mob-assault: "mobbing the Ministers", "Mobbing the De-Wits" — not workplace bullying |
| vegan 1 | 1 | vintage/OCR | OCR of "began": "and vegan to speake with other tounges" |
| skort 1 | 1 | vintage/OCR | OCR of "short": "Nothing skort of the Inspiration" |
| nimby 1 | 1 | vintage/OCR | old spelling "nimby" = nimbly/quickly: "she doth so nimby skip" |
| kiasu 1 | 1 | vintage/OCR | a person's name "Kiasu, whom he appointed for their General" — not the Singaporean term |
| darknet 1 | 1 | vintage | old word = darkness: "expounding through the darknet of soules" — not the Tor network |
| disco'er 1 | 0* | vintage/OCR | apostrophe form; folds into disco/OCR fragments — no club-dance sense |
| d'auteur 1 | 0* | vintage | French "d'auteur" = of the author (folds into auteur) |
For now, this is just a report. I will remove some of the offending words from the dictionaries.
Done, removed the real modern words from the dictionaries.
Thank you for reporting this.
Don't close the discussion, it could be useful for other people.
bigrams/english-historical-1800-1875-bigrams.json.zst|rg -wf banned4rg.list
"einstein's_theory": 267,
"lesbian's_grave": 84,
"einstein's_law": 33,
"einstein's_formula": 28,
"digitized_by'google": 18,
"hitler's_invasion": 17,
"ussr's_external": 17,
"einstein's_relativity": 15,
"einstein's_principle": 13,
"nato's_partnership": 13,
"einstein's_general": 12,
"nato's_integrated": 12,
"nato's_squadron": 12,